Aṅguttara Nikāya 10.93 10.

Diṭṭhi Sutta | Views

Upālivagga Kiṁdiṭṭhikasutta Ekaṁ samayaṁ bhagavā sāvatthiyaṁ viharati jetavane anāthapiṇḍikassa ārāme.

At one time, the Blessed One was staying in Savatthi, in Jeta's Grove, Anathapindika's park.

Atha kho anāthapiṇḍiko gahapati divā divassa sāvatthiyā nikkhami bhagavantaṁ dassanāya.

Then, Anathapindika, the householder, left Savatthi during the day to see the Blessed One.

Atha kho anāthapiṇḍikassa gahapatissa etadahosi: “akālo kho tāva bhagavantaṁ dassanāya.

Then it occurred to Anathapindika, the householder: It is not the right time to see the Blessed One.

Paṭisallīno bhagavā.

The Blessed One is in seclusion.

Manobhāvanīyānampi bhikkhūnaṁ akālo dassanāya.

It is also not the right time to see the disciples who are pleasing to the mind.

Paṭisallīnā manobhāvanīyā bhikkhū.

The disciples who are pleasing to the mind are in seclusion.

Yannūnāhaṁ yena aññatitthiyānaṁ paribbājakānaṁ ārāmo tenupasaṅkameyyan”ti.

Perhaps I should approach the park of the wanderers of other sects.

Atha kho anāthapiṇḍiko gahapati yena aññatitthiyānaṁ paribbājakānaṁ ārāmo tenupasaṅkami.

Then, Anathapindika, the householder, approached the park of the wanderers of other sects.

Tena kho pana samayena aññatitthiyā paribbājakā saṅgamma samāgamma unnādino uccāsaddamahāsaddā anekavihitaṁ tiracchānakathaṁ kathentā nisinnā honti.

At that time, the wanderers of other sects, having come together, were sitting, making loud noises and talking various kinds of nonsense.

Addasaṁsu kho te aññatitthiyā paribbājakā anāthapiṇḍikaṁ gahapatiṁ dūratova āgacchantaṁ.

The wanderers of other sects saw Anathapinika, the householder, coming from afar.

Disvāna aññamaññaṁ saṇṭhāpesuṁ: “appasaddā bhonto hontu, mā bhonto saddamakattha.

Seeing him, they said to one another: Let's be quiet, gentlemen, let's not make a noise.

Ayaṁ anāthapiṇḍiko gahapati ārāmaṁ āgacchati samaṇassa gotamassa sāvako.

Here comes Anathapindika, the householder, a follower of the ascetic Gotama.

Yāvatā kho pana samaṇassa gotamassa sāvakā gihī odātavasanā sāvatthiyaṁ paṭivasanti, ayaṁ tesaṁ aññataro anāthapiṇḍiko gahapati.

Among the followers of the ascetic Gotama who are householders wearing white clothes living in Savatthi, he is one of them.

Appasaddakāmā kho pana te āyasmanto appasaddavinītā appasaddassa vaṇṇavādino.

Those venerable ones like quiet, are trained in quiet, and praise quiet.

Appeva nāma appasaddaṁ parisaṁ viditvā upasaṅkamitabbaṁ maññeyyā”ti.

Perhaps it should be considered proper to approach a quiet assembly.

Atha kho te aññatitthiyā paribbājakā tuṇhī ahesuṁ.

Then, those wanderers of other sects became silent.

Atha kho anāthapiṇḍiko gahapati yena te aññatitthiyā paribbājakā tenupasaṅkami; upasaṅkamitvā tehi aññatitthiyehi paribbājakehi saddhiṁ sammodi.

Then, Anathapindika, the householder, approached them and, having approached, exchanged greetings with those wanderers of other sects.

Sammodanīyaṁ kathaṁ sāraṇīyaṁ vītisāretvā ekamantaṁ nisīdi.

After exchanging courteous and amiable talk, he sat down to one side.

Ekamantaṁ nisinnaṁ kho anāthapiṇḍikaṁ gahapatiṁ te aññatitthiyā paribbājakā etadavocuṁ: “vadehi, gahapati, kiṁdiṭṭhiko samaṇo gotamo”ti?

Sitting to one side, those wanderers of other sects said to him: Tell us what view does the ascetic Gotama hold?

“Na kho ahaṁ, bhante, bhagavato sabbaṁ diṭṭhiṁ jānāmī”ti.

I do not know the full extent of the views of the Blessed One, he replied.

“Iti kira tvaṁ, gahapati, na samaṇassa gotamassa sabbaṁ diṭṭhiṁ jānāsi; vadehi, gahapati, kiṁdiṭṭhikā bhikkhū”ti?

So you do not know the full extent of the views of the ascetic Gotama; tell us, what views do the disciples hold?

“Bhikkhūnampi kho ahaṁ, bhante, na sabbaṁ diṭṭhiṁ jānāmī”ti.

I also do not know the full extent of the disciples views, he replied.

“Iti kira tvaṁ, gahapati, na samaṇassa gotamassa sabbaṁ diṭṭhiṁ jānāsi napi bhikkhūnaṁ sabbaṁ diṭṭhiṁ jānāsi; vadehi, gahapati, kiṁdiṭṭhikosi tuvan”ti?

So you do not know the full extent of the views of the ascetic Gotama nor the views of the disciples; tell us, what views do you hold?

“Etaṁ kho, bhante, amhehi na dukkaraṁ byākātuṁ yaṁdiṭṭhikā mayaṁ.

It is not difficult for us to explain our views.

Iṅgha tāva āyasmanto yathāsakāni diṭṭhigatāni byākarontu, pacchāpetaṁ amhehi na dukkaraṁ bhavissati byākātuṁ yaṁdiṭṭhikā mayan”ti.

Please, venerables, first explain your own views according to your beliefs, and then it will not be difficult for us to explain our views.

Evaṁ vutte, aññataro paribbājako anāthapiṇḍikaṁ gahapatiṁ etadavoca: “sassato loko, idameva saccaṁ moghamaññanti— evaṁdiṭṭhiko ahaṁ, gahapatī”ti.

Upon this request, one wanderer said to Anathapindika, the householder: The world is eternal, this is the only truth, everything else is wrong: this is my view, householder.

Aññataropi kho paribbājako anāthapiṇḍikaṁ gahapatiṁ etadavoca: “asassato loko, idameva saccaṁ moghamaññanti— evaṁdiṭṭhiko ahaṁ, gahapatī”ti.

Another wanderer said to him: The world is not eternal, this is the only truth, everything else is wrong: this is my view, householder.

Aññataropi kho paribbājako anāthapiṇḍikaṁ gahapatiṁ etadavoca: “antavā loko …pe…

Another wanderer said:

The world is finite...

anantavā loko …

the world is infinite...

taṁ jīvaṁ taṁ sarīraṁ …

the soul and the body are the same...

aññaṁ jīvaṁ aññaṁ sarīraṁ …

the soul is one thing, the body another...

hoti tathāgato paraṁ maraṇā …

the Tathagata exists after death...

na hoti tathāgato paraṁ maraṇā …

the Tathagata does not exist after death...

hoti ca na ca hoti tathāgato paraṁ maraṇā …

the Tathagata both exists and does not exist after death...

neva hoti na na hoti tathāgato paraṁ maraṇā, idameva saccaṁ moghamaññanti— evaṁdiṭṭhiko ahaṁ, gahapatī”ti.

the Tathagata neither exists nor does not exist after death, this is the only truth, everything else is wrong: this is my view, householder.

Evaṁ vutte, anāthapiṇḍiko gahapati te paribbājake etadavoca: “yvāyaṁ, bhante, āyasmā evamāha: ‘sassato loko, idameva saccaṁ moghamaññanti— evaṁdiṭṭhiko ahaṁ, gahapatī’ti, imassa ayamāyasmato diṭṭhi attano vā ayonisomanasikārahetu uppannā paratoghosapaccayā vā.

Upon hearing this, Anathapindika, the householder, said to those wanderers: As for the venerable who says: The world is eternal, this is the only truth, everything else is wrong: this is my view his view has arisen either from his own inappropriate attention or because of what others say.

Sā kho panesā diṭṭhi bhūtā saṅkhatā cetayitā paṭiccasamuppannā.

But that view is constructed, conditioned, willed, and arisen dependent on conditions.

Yaṁ kho pana kiñci bhūtaṁ saṅkhataṁ cetayitaṁ paṭiccasamuppannaṁ tadaniccaṁ.

Whatever is constructed, conditioned, willed, and arisen dependent on conditions is impermanent.

Yadaniccaṁ taṁ dukkhaṁ.

What is impermanent is suffering.

Yaṁ dukkhaṁ tadeveso āyasmā allīno, tadeveso āyasmā ajjhupagato.

What is suffering is something this venerable clings to, something he has taken up.

Yopāyaṁ, bhante, āyasmā evamāha: ‘asassato loko, idameva saccaṁ moghamaññanti— evaṁdiṭṭhiko ahaṁ, gahapatī’ti, imassāpi ayamāyasmato diṭṭhi attano vā ayonisomanasikārahetu uppannā paratoghosapaccayā vā.

Similarly, for the one who says: The world is not eternal..., and for all the other positions mentioned, their views have arisen either from their own inappropriate attention or because of what others say.

Sā kho panesā diṭṭhi bhūtā saṅkhatā cetayitā paṭiccasamuppannā.

But those views are constructed, conditioned, willed, and arisen dependent on conditions.

Yaṁ kho pana kiñci bhūtaṁ saṅkhataṁ cetayitaṁ paṭiccasamuppannaṁ tadaniccaṁ.

Whatever is constructed, conditioned, willed, and arisen dependent on conditions is impermanent.

Yadaniccaṁ taṁ dukkhaṁ.

What is impermanent is suffering.

Yaṁ dukkhaṁ tadeveso āyasmā allīno, tadeveso āyasmā ajjhupagato.

What is suffering is something these venerables cling to, something they have taken up.

Yopāyaṁ, bhante, āyasmā evamāha: ‘antavā loko …pe…

A Tathagata does not exist after death...

anantavā loko … taṁ jīvaṁ taṁ sarīraṁ … aññaṁ jīvaṁ aññaṁ sarīraṁ …

A Tathagata both exists and does not exist after death...

hoti tathāgato paraṁ maraṇā … na hoti tathāgato paraṁ maraṇā … hoti ca na ca hoti tathāgato paraṁ maraṇā …

A Tathagata neither exists nor does not exist after death, this alone is true, others are mistaken:

neva hoti na na hoti tathāgato paraṁ maraṇā, idameva saccaṁ moghamaññanti— evaṁdiṭṭhiko ahaṁ, gahapatī’ti, imassāpi ayamāyasmato diṭṭhi attano vā ayonisomanasikārahetu uppannā paratoghosapaccayā vā.

This is my view he said,

This view of this venerable one has arisen either from his own inappropriate attention or because of listening to others.

Sā kho panesā diṭṭhi bhūtā saṅkhatā cetayitā paṭiccasamuppannā.

And this view is indeed arisen, conditioned, willed, and dependently originated.

Yaṁ kho pana kiñci bhūtaṁ saṅkhataṁ cetayitaṁ paṭiccasamuppannaṁ tadaniccaṁ.

Whatever is arisen, conditioned, willed, and dependently originated is impermanent.

Yadaniccaṁ taṁ dukkhaṁ.

What is impermanent is suffering.

Yaṁ dukkhaṁ tadeveso āyasmā allīno, tadeveso āyasmā ajjhupagato”ti.

What is suffering, that is what this venerable one is attached to, that is what this venerable one has embraced.

Evaṁ vutte te paribbājakā anāthapiṇḍikaṁ gahapatiṁ etadavocuṁ: “byākatāni kho, gahapati, amhehi sabbeheva yathāsakāni diṭṭhigatāni.

When this was said, those wanderers said to

Anathapindika the householder:

Householder, all our views have been declared as far as they go.

Vadehi, gahapati, kiṁdiṭṭhikosi tuvan”ti?

Tell us what is your view?

“Yaṁ kho, bhante, kiñci bhūtaṁ saṅkhataṁ cetayitaṁ paṭiccasamuppannaṁ tadaniccaṁ.

Whatever is arisen, conditioned, willed, and dependently originated is impermanent.

Yadaniccaṁ taṁ dukkhaṁ.

What is impermanent is suffering.

‘Yaṁ dukkhaṁ taṁ netaṁ mama, nesohamasmi, na meso attā’ti— evaṁdiṭṭhiko ahaṁ, bhante”ti.

What is suffering, that is not mine, I am not that, that is not my self: This is my view, venerable sir.

“Yaṁ kho, gahapati, kiñci bhūtaṁ saṅkhataṁ cetayitaṁ paṭiccasamuppannaṁ tadaniccaṁ.

Whatever is arisen, conditioned, willed, and dependently originated is impermanent.

Yadaniccaṁ taṁ dukkhaṁ.

What is impermanent is suffering.

Yaṁ dukkhaṁ tadeva tvaṁ, gahapati, allīno, tadeva tvaṁ, gahapati, ajjhupagato”ti.

What is suffering, that you are attached to, that you have embraced.

“Yaṁ kho, bhante, kiñci bhūtaṁ saṅkhataṁ cetayitaṁ paṭiccasamuppannaṁ tadaniccaṁ.

Whatever is arisen, conditioned, willed, and dependently originated is impermanent.

Yadaniccaṁ taṁ dukkhaṁ.

What is impermanent is suffering.

‘Yaṁ dukkhaṁ taṁ netaṁ mama, nesohamasmi, nameso attā’ti—evametaṁ yathābhūtaṁ sammappaññāya sudiṭṭhaṁ.

What is suffering, that is not mine, I am not that, that is not my self: thus it is seen as it really is with proper wisdom.

Tassa ca uttari nissaraṇaṁ yathābhūtaṁ pajānāmī”ti.

And I see the further escape from it as it really is.

Evaṁ vutte te paribbājakā tuṇhībhūtā maṅkubhūtā pattakkhandhā adhomukhā pajjhāyantā appaṭibhānā nisīdiṁsu.

When this was said, those wanderers sat silent, dismayed, shoulders drooping, heads down, brooding, without response.

Atha kho anāthapiṇḍiko gahapati te paribbājake tuṇhībhūte maṅkubhūte pattakkhandhe adhomukhe pajjhāyante appaṭibhāne viditvā uṭṭhāyāsanā yena bhagavā tenupasaṅkami; upasaṅkamitvā bhagavantaṁ abhivādetvā ekamantaṁ nisīdi.

Then Anathapindika the householder, knowing that those wanderers were silent, dismayed, got up from his seat and went to the Blessed One; after paying homage to him, he sat down at one side.

Ekamantaṁ nisinno kho anāthapiṇḍiko gahapati yāvatako ahosi tehi aññatitthiyehi paribbājakehi saddhiṁ kathāsallāpo taṁ sabbaṁ bhagavato ārocesi.

Sitting at one side, Anathapindika the householder reported to the Blessed One the entire conversation he had with those wanderers.

“Sādhu sādhu, gahapati.

Well done, well done, householder.

Evaṁ kho te, gahapati, moghapurisā kālena kālaṁ sahadhammena suniggahitaṁ niggahetabbā”ti.

Thus those foolish men should be rebuked from time to time with timely Dhamma.

Atha kho bhagavā anāthapiṇḍikaṁ gahapatiṁ dhammiyā kathāya sandassesi samādapesi samuttejesi sampahaṁsesi. Atha kho anāthapiṇḍiko gahapati bhagavatā dhammiyā kathāya sandassito samādapito samuttejito sampahaṁsito uṭṭhāyāsanā bhagavantaṁ abhivādetvā padakkhiṇaṁ katvā pakkāmi.

Then the Blessed One instructed, urged, roused, and gladdened Anathapindika the householder with a Dhamma talk, after which he, having paid homage to the Blessed One, keeping him on his right, departed.

Atha kho bhagavā acirapakkante anāthapiṇḍike gahapatimhi bhikkhū āmantesi: “yopi so, bhikkhave, bhikkhu vassasatupasampanno imasmiṁ dhammavinaye, sopi evamevaṁ aññatitthiye paribbājake sahadhammena suniggahitaṁ niggaṇheyya yathā taṁ anāthapiṇḍikena gahapatinā niggahitā”ti. Tatiyaṁ.

Then, not long after Anathapindika the householder had left, the Blessed One addressed the disciples:

Even if a disciple has been ordained for a hundred years in this Dhamma and Discipline, he should rebuke other sectarians in the same way Anathapindika the householder has rebuked them.