Disciples, if wanderers of other sects say this, they should be answered thus:
Ime kho no, āvuso, tena bhagavatā jānatā passatā arahatā sammāsambuddhena cattāro dhammā akkhātā ye mayaṁ attani sampassamānā evaṁ vadema— idheva samaṇo, idha dutiyo samaṇo, idha tatiyo samaṇo, idha catuttho samaṇo; suññā parappavādā samaṇebhi aññehī’ti.
Friends, there are four things declared by the Blessed One, who knows and sees, the Arahant, the Perfectly Enlightened One, which we, seeing in ourselves, say this:
Ṭhānaṁ kho panetaṁ, bhikkhave, vijjati yaṁ aññatitthiyā paribbājakā evaṁ vadeyyuṁ: ‘amhākampi kho, āvuso, atthi satthari pasādo yo amhākaṁ satthā, amhākampi atthi dhamme pasādo yo amhākaṁ dhammo, mayampi sīlesu paripūrakārino yāni amhākaṁ sīlāni, amhākampi sahadhammikā piyā manāpā— gahaṭṭhā ceva pabbajitā ca. Idha no, āvuso, ko viseso ko adhippayāso kiṁ nānākaraṇaṁ yadidaṁ tumhākañceva amhākañcā’ti?
here a recluse, here a second recluse, here a third recluse, here a fourth recluse; other doctrines are empty of recluses.
What are the four?
There is, friends, faith in the Teacher, there is faith in the Dhamma, there is fulfillment of moral conduct; and there is affection and respect among fellow practitioners:
These are the four things declared by the Blessed One, who knows and sees, the Arahant, the Perfectly Enlightened One, which we, seeing in ourselves, say this:
There is a possibility that wanderers of other sects might say:
We too, friends, have faith in our teacher, we too have faith in our doctrine, we too fulfill moral conduct, and we too have affection and respect among fellow practitioners: both householders and those gone forth.
Friends, is that final goal for one with delusion or for one without delusion?
Sammā byākaramānā, bhikkhave, aññatitthiyā paribbājakā evaṁ byākareyyuṁ: ‘nippapañcārāmassāvuso, sā niṭṭhā nippapañcaratino, na sā niṭṭhā papañcārāmassa papañcaratino’ti. Dvemā, bhikkhave, diṭṭhiyo— bhavadiṭṭhi ca vibhavadiṭṭhi ca.
Rightly answering wanderers of other sects would answer thus:
Friends, that final goal is for one without delusion, not for one with delusion.
Ye hi keci, bhikkhave, samaṇā vā brāhmaṇā vā bhavadiṭṭhiṁ allīnā bhavadiṭṭhiṁ upagatā bhavadiṭṭhiṁ ajjhositā, vibhavadiṭṭhiyā te paṭiviruddhā.
Friends, is that final goal for one with craving or for one without craving?
Ye hi keci, bhikkhave, samaṇā vā brāhmaṇā vā vibhavadiṭṭhiṁ allīnā vibhavadiṭṭhiṁ upagatā vibhavadiṭṭhiṁ ajjhositā, bhavadiṭṭhiyā te paṭiviruddhā.
Rightly answering wanderers of other sects would answer thus:
Ye hi keci, bhikkhave, samaṇā vā brāhmaṇā vā imāsaṁ dvinnaṁ diṭṭhīnaṁ samudayañca atthaṅgamañca assādañca ādīnavañca nissaraṇañca yathābhūtaṁ nappajānanti, ‘te sarāgā te sadosā te samohā te sataṇhā te saupādānā te aviddasuno te anuruddhappaṭiviruddhā te papañcārāmā papañcaratino; te na parimuccanti jātiyā jarāya maraṇena sokehi paridevehi dukkhehi domanassehi upāyāsehi; na parimuccanti dukkhasmā’ti vadāmi. Ye ca kho keci, bhikkhave, samaṇā vā brāhmaṇā vā imāsaṁ dvinnaṁ diṭṭhīnaṁ samudayañca atthaṅgamañca assādañca ādīnavañca nissaraṇañca yathābhūtaṁ pajānanti, ‘te vītarāgā te vītadosā te vītamohā te vītataṇhā te anupādānā te viddasuno te ananuruddhaappaṭiviruddhā te nippapañcārāmā nippapañcaratino; te parimuccanti jātiyā jarāya maraṇena sokehi paridevehi dukkhehi domanassehi upāyāsehi; parimuccanti dukkhasmā’ti vadāmi.
Friends, that final goal is for one without craving, not for one with craving.
Friends, is that final goal for one with clinging or for one without clinging?
Rightly answering wanderers of other sects would answer thus:
Friends, that final goal is for one without clinging, not for one with clinging.
Rightly answering wanderers of other sects would answer thus:
Te na sammā sabbupādānapariññaṁ paññapenti— kāmupādānassa pariññaṁ paññapenti, na diṭṭhupādānassa pariññaṁ paññapenti, na sīlabbatupādānassa pariññaṁ paññapenti, na attavādupādānassa pariññaṁ paññapenti. Taṁ kissa hetu?
Friends, that final goal is for one with knowing, not for one without knowing.
Friends, is that final goal for one who is in harmony or for one who is in conflict?
Imāni hi te bhonto samaṇabrāhmaṇā tīṇi ṭhānāni yathābhūtaṁ nappajānanti.
Rightly answering wanderers of other sects would answer thus:
Tasmā te bhonto samaṇabrāhmaṇā sabbupādānapariññāvādā paṭijānamānā; te na sammā sabbupādānapariññaṁ paññapenti— kāmupādānassa pariññaṁ paññapenti, na diṭṭhupādānassa pariññaṁ paññapenti, na sīlabbatupādānassa pariññaṁ paññapenti, na attavādupādānassa pariññaṁ paññapenti.
Friends, that final goal is for one who is in harmony, not for one who is in conflict.
Friends, is that final goal for one who has abandoned ignorance or for one who still has it?
Rightly answering wanderers of other sects would answer thus:
Te na sammā sabbupādānapariññaṁ paññapenti— kāmupādānassa pariññaṁ paññapenti, diṭṭhupādānassa pariññaṁ paññapenti, na sīlabbatupādānassa pariññaṁ paññapenti, na attavādupādānassa pariññaṁ paññapenti.
Friends, that final goal is for one who has abandoned ignorance, not for one who still has it.
Taṁ kissa hetu? Imāni hi te bhonto samaṇabrāhmaṇā dve ṭhānāni yathābhūtaṁ nappajānanti. Tasmā te bhonto samaṇabrāhmaṇā sabbupādānapariññāvādā paṭijānamānā; te na sammā sabbupādānapariññaṁ paññapenti— kāmupādānassa pariññaṁ paññapenti, diṭṭhupādānassa pariññaṁ paññapenti, na sīlabbatupādānassa pariññaṁ paññapenti, na attavādupādānassa pariññaṁ paññapenti. Santi, bhikkhave, eke samaṇabrāhmaṇā sabbupādānapariññāvādā paṭijānamānā.
There are these four kinds of clinging. What is their source, what is their origin, from what are they born, from what are they produced? These four kinds of clinging have craving as their source, craving as their origin, they are born from craving, they are produced from craving.
Te na sammā sabbupādānapariññaṁ paññapenti— kāmupādānassa pariññaṁ paññapenti, diṭṭhupādānassa pariññaṁ paññapenti, sīlabbatupādānassa pariññaṁ paññapenti, na attavādupādānassa pariññaṁ paññapenti.
And this craving what is its source, what is its origin, from what is it born, from what is it produced?
Taṁ kissa hetu? Imañhi te bhonto samaṇabrāhmaṇā ekaṁ ṭhānaṁ yathābhūtaṁ nappajānanti. Tasmā te bhonto samaṇabrāhmaṇā sabbupādānapariññāvādā paṭijānamānā; te na sammā sabbupādānapariññaṁ paññapenti— kāmupādānassa pariññaṁ paññapenti, diṭṭhupādānassa pariññaṁ paññapenti, sīlabbatupādānassa pariññaṁ paññapenti, na attavādupādānassa pariññaṁ paññapenti.
Craving has feeling as its source, feeling as its origin, it is born from feeling, it is produced from feeling.
And this feeling what is its source, what is its origin, from what is it born, from what is it produced?
Evarūpe kho, bhikkhave, dhammavinaye yo satthari pasādo so na sammaggato akkhāyati; yo dhamme pasādo so na sammaggato akkhāyati; yā sīlesu paripūrakāritā sā na sammaggatā akkhāyati; yā sahadhammikesu piyamanāpatā sā na sammaggatā akkhāyati.
Feeling has contact as its source, contact as its origin, it is born from contact, it is produced from contact.
Contact has the six sense bases as its source, the six sense bases as its origin, it is born from the six sense bases, it is produced from the six sense bases.
And these six sense bases what is their source, what is their origin, from what are they born, from what are they produced?
The six sense bases have name-and-form as their source, name-and-form as their origin, they are born from name-and-form, they are produced from name-and-form.
Ime ca, bhikkhave, cattāro upādānā. Kiṁnidānā kiṁsamudayā kiṁjātikā kiṁpabhavā? Ime cattāro upādānā taṇhānidānā taṇhāsamudayā taṇhājātikā taṇhāpabhavā.
And this name-and-form what is its source, what is its origin, from what is it born, from what is it produced?
Formations have ignorance as their source, ignorance as their origin, they are born from ignorance, they are produced from ignorance.
But when a disciple has abandoned ignorance and knowing has arisen, then, with the fading away of ignorance and the arising of knowing, he does not cling to sense satisfaction, he does not cling to views, he does not cling to precepts and practices, he does not cling to a doctrine of self.
Not clinging, he does not become agitated, not being agitated, he personally attains Nibbāna.
Yato ca kho, bhikkhave, bhikkhuno avijjā pahīnā hoti vijjā uppannā, so avijjāvirāgā vijjuppādā neva kāmupādānaṁ upādiyati, na diṭṭhupādānaṁ upādiyati, na sīlabbatupādānaṁ upādiyati, na attavādupādānaṁ upādiyati.
He knows: Birth is destroyed, the holy life has been lived, what had to be done has been done, there is no more coming to any state of being.
Anupādiyaṁ na paritassati, aparitassaṁ paccattaññeva parinibbāyati.