Majjhima Nikāya 122 Mahāsuññatasutta Evaṁ me sutaṁ— ekaṁ samayaṁ bhagavā sakkesu viharati kapilavatthusmiṁ nigrodhārāme.

The Longer Discourse on Emptiness

Thus have I heard:

At one time, the Blessed One was staying among the Sakyans, in the Nigrodha Park at Kapilavatthu.

Atha kho bhagavā pubbaṇhasamayaṁ nivāsetvā pattacīvaramādāya kapilavatthuṁ piṇḍāya pāvisi.

Then, in the forenoon, having put on his robe and taking his bowl and outer robe, the Blessed One entered Kapilavatthu for alms.

Kapilavatthusmiṁ piṇḍāya caritvā pacchābhattaṁ piṇḍapātapaṭikkanto yena kāḷakhemakassa sakkassa vihāro tenupasaṅkami divāvihārāya.

Having gone on his alms round in Kapilavatthu and returned after his meal, he went to the dwelling of the Sakyan Kālakehemaka for a day’s residence.

Tena kho pana samayena kāḷakhemakassa sakkassa vihāre sambahulāni senāsanāni paññattāni honti.

At that time in the dwelling of Kālakehemaka, many lodgings had been prepared.

Addasā kho bhagavā kāḷakhemakassa sakkassa vihāre sambahulāni senāsanāni paññattāni.

The Blessed One saw that many lodgings had been prepared in the dwelling of Kālakehemaka.

Disvāna bhagavato etadahosi: “sambahulāni kho kāḷakhemakassa sakkassa vihāre senāsanāni paññattāni.

Upon seeing this, the Blessed One thought, In the dwelling of Kālakehemaka, many lodgings have been prepared.

Sambahulā nu kho idha bhikkhū viharantī”ti.

Are many disciples staying here?

Tena kho pana samayena āyasmā ānando sambahulehi bhikkhūhi saddhiṁ ghaṭāya sakkassa vihāre cīvarakammaṁ karoti.

At that time Venerable Ānanda was engaged in robe-making with several other disciples at the workshop in the Sakyan's dwelling.

Atha kho bhagavā sāyanhasamayaṁ paṭisallānā vuṭṭhito yena ghaṭāya sakkassa vihāro tenupasaṅkami; upasaṅkamitvā paññatte āsane nisīdi.

Then in the evening, having emerged from seclusion, the Blessed One went to the workshop of the Sakyan, approached, and sat down on the prepared seat.

Nisajja kho bhagavā āyasmantaṁ ānandaṁ āmantesi: “sambahulāni kho, ānanda, kāḷakhemakassa sakkassa vihāre senāsanāni paññattāni.

Having sat down, the Blessed One addressed Venerable Ānanda, Ānanda, in the dwelling of Kālakehemaka, many lodgings have been prepared.

Sambahulā nu kho ettha bhikkhū viharantī”ti?

Are many disciples staying there?

“Sambahulāni, bhante, kāḷakhemakassa sakkassa vihāre senāsanāni paññattāni. Sambahulā bhikkhū ettha viharanti.

Indeed, venerable sir, in the dwelling of Kālakehemaka, many lodgings have been prepared, and many disciples are staying there.

Cīvarakārasamayo no, bhante, vattatī”ti.

It is our robe-making time, venerable sir.

“Na kho, ānanda, bhikkhu sobhati saṅgaṇikārāmo saṅgaṇikarato saṅgaṇikārāmataṁ anuyutto gaṇārāmo gaṇarato gaṇasammudito. So vatānanda, bhikkhu saṅgaṇikārāmo saṅgaṇikarato saṅgaṇikārāmataṁ anuyutto gaṇārāmo gaṇarato gaṇasammudito yaṁ taṁ nekkhammasukhaṁ pavivekasukhaṁ upasamasukhaṁ sambodhisukhaṁ tassa sukhassa nikāmalābhī bhavissati akicchalābhī akasiralābhīti—netaṁ ṭhānaṁ vijjati.

A disciple, Ānanda, who delights in company, enjoys company, and is committed to the pursuit of company, delights in groups, enjoys groups, delights with groups : it is not possible that such a disciple will easily obtain the happiness of renunciation, the happiness of seclusion, the happiness of peace, and the happiness of enlightenment, with little trouble and little difficulty.

Yo ca kho so, ānanda, bhikkhu eko gaṇasmā vūpakaṭṭho viharati tassetaṁ bhikkhuno pāṭikaṅkhaṁ yaṁ taṁ nekkhammasukhaṁ pavivekasukhaṁ upasamasukhaṁ sambodhisukhaṁ tassa sukhassa nikāmalābhī bhavissati akicchalābhī akasiralābhīti—ṭhānametaṁ vijjati.

But, Ānanda, for a disciple who dwells alone, withdrawn from the group, it is expected that he will easily obtain the happiness of renunciation, the happiness of seclusion, the happiness of peace, and the happiness of enlightenment with little trouble and little difficulty. This is possible.

So vatānanda, bhikkhu saṅgaṇikārāmo saṅgaṇikarato saṅgaṇikārāmataṁ anuyutto gaṇārāmo gaṇarato gaṇasammudito sāmāyikaṁ vā kantaṁ cetovimuttiṁ upasampajja viharissati asāmāyikaṁ vā akuppanti—netaṁ ṭhānaṁ vijjati.

Thus, Ānanda, a disciple who delights in socializing, inclined to socializing, devoted to socializing, delights in groups, rejoices in groups, is immersed in groups, will not attain and dwell in the temporary or unshakeable liberation of mind:this is not a possibility.

Yo ca kho so, ānanda, bhikkhu eko gaṇasmā vūpakaṭṭho viharati tassetaṁ bhikkhuno pāṭikaṅkhaṁ sāmāyikaṁ vā kantaṁ cetovimuttiṁ upasampajja viharissati asāmāyikaṁ vā akuppanti—ṭhānametaṁ vijjati.

However, Ānanda, when a disciple lives withdrawn, apart from the group, it is expected that he will attain and dwell in the temporary or unshakeable liberation of mind:this is a possibility.

Nāhaṁ, ānanda, ekaṁ rūpampi samanupassāmi yattha rattassa yathābhiratassa rūpassa vipariṇāmaññathābhāvā na uppajjeyyuṁ sokaparidevadukkhadomanassūpāyāsā.

I do not see, Ānanda, even one form because of which, for one who takes pleasure and is enamored with it, sorrow, lamentation, pain, grief, and despair would not arise due to its change and alteration.

Ayaṁ kho panānanda, vihāro tathāgatena abhisambuddho yadidaṁ— sabbanimittānaṁ amanasikārā ajjhattaṁ suññataṁ upasampajja viharituṁ.

However, Ānanda, this dwelling has been realized by the Tathāgata, namely, by disregarding all signs, to attain and dwell in the internal emptiness.

Tatra ce, ānanda, tathāgataṁ iminā vihārena viharantaṁ bhavanti upasaṅkamitāro bhikkhū bhikkhuniyo upāsakā upāsikāyo rājāno rājamahāmattā titthiyā titthiyasāvakā. Tatrānanda, tathāgato vivekaninneneva cittena vivekapoṇena vivekapabbhārena vūpakaṭṭhena nekkhammābhiratena byantībhūtena sabbaso āsavaṭṭhānīyehi dhammehi aññadatthu uyyojanikapaṭisaṁyuttaṁyeva kathaṁ kattā hoti.

If, Ānanda, while dwelling in this abode, there come to the Tathāgata disciples, nuns, male lay followers, female lay followers, kings, royal ministers, wanderers, and disciples of other schools, then, Ānanda, the Tathāgata, with a mind inclined to seclusion, swelled with seclusion, elevated by seclusion, withdrawn, rejoicing in renunciation, completely independent, engages only in conversation connected with leaving.

Tasmātihānanda, bhikkhu cepi ākaṅkheyya: ‘ajjhattaṁ suññataṁ upasampajja vihareyyan’ti, tenānanda, bhikkhunā ajjhattameva cittaṁ saṇṭhapetabbaṁ sannisādetabbaṁ ekodi kātabbaṁ samādahātabbaṁ.

Therefore, Ānanda, if a disciple should wish, ‘May I attain and dwell in the internal emptiness, then, Ānanda, that disciple must settle his mind internally, focus it internally, unify it, and concentrate it.

Kathañcānanda, bhikkhu ajjhattameva cittaṁ saṇṭhapeti sannisādeti ekodiṁ karoti samādahati?

And how, Ānanda, does a disciple settle his mind internally, focus it internally, unify it, and concentrate it?

Idhānanda, bhikkhu vivicceva kāmehi vivicca akusalehi dhammehi …pe… paṭhamaṁ jhānaṁ upasampajja viharati …pe…

Here, Ānanda, a disciple, quite secluded from sensual pleasures, secluded from unwholesome states, enters and dwells in the first jhāna...

dutiyaṁ jhānaṁ …

the second jhāna...

tatiyaṁ jhānaṁ …

the third jhāna...

catutthaṁ jhānaṁ upasampajja viharati.

the fourth jhāna.

Evaṁ kho, ānanda, bhikkhu ajjhattameva cittaṁ saṇṭhapeti sannisādeti ekodiṁ karoti samādahati.

This is how, Ānanda, a disciple settles his mind internally, focuses it internally, unifies it, and concentrates it.

So ajjhattaṁ suññataṁ manasi karoti.

He attends to the internal emptiness.

Tassa ajjhattaṁ suññataṁ manasikaroto suññatāya cittaṁ na pakkhandati nappasīdati na santiṭṭhati na vimuccati.

While attending to the internal emptiness, his mind does not incline to, settle upon, establish in, or become liberated in the emptiness.

Evaṁ santametaṁ, ānanda, bhikkhu evaṁ pajānāti: ‘ajjhattaṁ suññataṁ kho me manasikaroto ajjhattaṁ suññatāya cittaṁ na pakkhandati nappasīdati na santiṭṭhati na vimuccatī’ti.

This being the case, Ānanda, a disciple knows thus: ‘While attending to the internal emptiness, my mind does not incline to, settle upon, establish in, or become liberated in the emptiness.

Itiha tattha sampajāno hoti.

Thus he remains mindful therein.

So bahiddhā suññataṁ manasi karoti …pe…

He contemplates external emptiness... and then...

so ajjhattabahiddhā suññataṁ manasi karoti …pe…

he contemplates both internal and external emptiness... and then...

so āneñjaṁ manasi karoti.

he contemplates the immovable state.

Tassa āneñjaṁ manasikaroto āneñjāya cittaṁ na pakkhandati nappasīdati na santiṭṭhati na vimuccati.

While he is contemplating the immovable state, his mind does not enter into, settle, become confident in, or become liberated in the immovable state.

Evaṁ santametaṁ, ānanda, bhikkhu evaṁ pajānāti: ‘āneñjaṁ kho me manasikaroto āneñjāya cittaṁ na pakkhandati nappasīdati na santiṭṭhati na vimuccatī’ti.

Thus, understanding this, Ānanda, a disciple recognizes: While contemplating the immovable state, my mind does not enter into, settle, become confident in, or become liberated in the immovable state.

Itiha tattha sampajāno hoti.

He remains fully aware of this.

Tenānanda, bhikkhunā tasmiṁyeva purimasmiṁ samādhinimitte ajjhattameva cittaṁ saṇṭhapetabbaṁ sannisādetabbaṁ ekodi kātabbaṁ samādahātabbaṁ.

Therefore, Ānanda, the disciple should place his mind, only related to the earlier sign of concentration, inwardly, making it collected, unified, concentrated.

So ajjhattaṁ suññataṁ manasi karoti.

He contemplates internal emptiness.

Tassa ajjhattaṁ suññataṁ manasikaroto ajjhattaṁ suññatāya cittaṁ pakkhandati pasīdati santiṭṭhati vimuccati.

While contemplating internal emptiness, his mind enters into, settles, becomes confident in, and becomes liberated in internal emptiness.

Evaṁ santametaṁ, ānanda, bhikkhu evaṁ pajānāti: ‘ajjhattaṁ suññataṁ kho me manasikaroto ajjhattaṁ suññatāya cittaṁ pakkhandati pasīdati santiṭṭhati vimuccatī’ti.

Thus, understanding this, Ānanda, a disciple recognizes: While contemplating internal emptiness, my mind enters into, settles, becomes confident in, and becomes liberated in internal emptiness.

Itiha tattha sampajāno hoti.

He remains fully aware of this.

So bahiddhā suññataṁ manasi karoti …pe…

He then contemplates external emptiness...

so ajjhattabahiddhā suññataṁ manasi karoti …pe…

and then... he contemplates both internal and external emptiness... and then...

so āneñjaṁ manasi karoti.

he contemplates the immovable state.

Tassa āneñjaṁ manasikaroto āneñjāya cittaṁ pakkhandati pasīdati santiṭṭhati vimuccati.

While he is contemplating the immovable state, his mind enters into, settles, becomes confident in, and becomes liberated in the immovable state.

Evaṁ santametaṁ, ānanda, bhikkhu evaṁ pajānāti: ‘āneñjaṁ kho me manasikaroto āneñjāya cittaṁ pakkhandati pasīdati santiṭṭhati vimuccatī’ti.

Thus, understanding this, Ānanda, a disciple recognizes: While contemplating the immovable state, my mind enters into, settles, becomes confident in, and becomes liberated in the immovable state.

Itiha tattha sampajāno hoti.

He remains fully aware of this.

Tassa ce, ānanda, bhikkhuno iminā vihārena viharato caṅkamāya cittaṁ namati, so caṅkamati: ‘evaṁ maṁ caṅkamantaṁ nābhijjhādomanassā pāpakā akusalā dhammā anvāssavissantī’ti.

If, Ānanda, the disciple's mind inclines towards walking while dwelling in this dwelling, he walks, thinking, As I continue walking, neither greed nor grief, nor unskillful unwholesome states will overwhelm me.

Itiha tattha sampajāno hoti.

He remains fully aware of this.

Tassa ce, ānanda, bhikkhuno iminā vihārena viharato ṭhānāya cittaṁ namati, so tiṭṭhati: ‘evaṁ maṁ ṭhitaṁ nābhijjhādomanassā pāpakā akusalā dhammā anvāssavissantī’ti.

If, Ānanda, the disciple's mind inclines towards standing while dwelling in this dwelling, he stands, thinking, As I continue standing, neither greed nor grief, nor unskillful unwholesome states will overwhelm me.

Itiha tattha sampajāno hoti.

He remains fully aware of this.

Tassa ce, ānanda, bhikkhuno iminā vihārena viharato nisajjāya cittaṁ namati, so nisīdati: ‘evaṁ maṁ nisinnaṁ nābhijjhādomanassā pāpakā akusalā dhammā anvāssavissantī’ti.

If, Ānanda, the disciple's mind inclines towards sitting while dwelling in this dwelling, he sits, thinking, As I continue sitting, neither greed nor grief, nor unskillful unwholesome states will overwhelm me.

Itiha tattha sampajāno hoti.

He remains fully aware of this.

Tassa ce, ānanda, bhikkhuno iminā vihārena viharato sayanāya cittaṁ namati, so sayati: ‘evaṁ maṁ sayantaṁ nābhijjhādomanassā pāpakā akusalā dhammā anvāssavissantī’ti.

If, Ānanda, the disciple's mind inclines towards lying down while dwelling in this dwelling, he lies down, thinking, As I continue lying down, neither greed nor grief, nor unskillful unwholesome states will overwhelm me.

Itiha tattha sampajāno hoti.

He remains fully aware of this.

Tassa ce, ānanda, bhikkhuno iminā vihārena viharato kathāya cittaṁ namati, so: ‘yāyaṁ kathā hīnā gammā pothujjanikā anariyā anatthasaṁhitā na nibbidāya na virāgāya na nirodhāya na upasamāya na abhiññāya na sambodhāya na nibbānāya saṁvattati, seyyathidaṁ—rājakathā corakathā mahāmattakathā senākathā bhayakathā yuddhakathā annakathā pānakathā vatthakathā sayanakathā mālākathā gandhakathā ñātikathā yānakathā gāmakathā nigamakathā nagarakathā janapadakathā itthikathā surākathā visikhākathā kumbhaṭṭhānakathā pubbapetakathā nānattakathā lokakkhāyikā samuddakkhāyikā itibhavābhavakathā iti vā iti—evarūpiṁ kathaṁ na kathessāmī’ti.

Thus, he is mindful there. If, Ānanda, while dwelling with this practice, the mind of a disciple inclines towards conversation, he considers, This type of conversation is inferior, worldly, of common people, ignoble, unbeneficial, leading neither to disenchantment, dispassion, cessation, tranquility, higher knowing, awakening, nor to Nibbāna; such as: talk on kings, thieves, ministers of state, armies, dangers, wars, food, drinks, clothes, beds, garlands, scents, relatives, vehicles, villages, towns, cities, countries, women, strong drink, streets, wells, the departed, diversity, world news, ocean news, talk of being and non-being. Thus, he resolves, I shall not engage in such talk.

Itiha tattha sampajāno hoti.

Thus, he is mindful there.

Yā ca kho ayaṁ, ānanda, kathā abhisallekhikā cetovinīvaraṇasappāyā ekantanibbidāya virāgāya nirodhāya upasamāya abhiññāya sambodhāya nibbānāya saṁvattati, seyyathidaṁ—appicchakathā santuṭṭhikathā pavivekakathā asaṁsaggakathā vīriyārambhakathā sīlakathā samādhikathā paññākathā vimuttikathā vimuttiñāṇadassanakathā iti: ‘evarūpiṁ kathaṁ kathessāmī’ti.

And, Ānanda, that conversation which leads to modesty, restraint, contentment, solitude, non-association, stirring of energy, virtue, concentration, wisdom, liberation, and the knowing and vision of liberation, he considers, This type of conversation is suitable, supporting mindfulness, leading to complete disenchantment, dispassion, cessation, tranquility, higher knowing, awakening, and Nibbāna; such as: talk on desiring little, contentment, seclusion, avoiding society, arousing energy, virtue, concentration, wisdom, liberation, and the knowing and vision of liberation.

Itiha tattha sampajāno hoti.

Thus, he is mindful there.

Tassa ce, ānanda, bhikkhuno iminā vihārena viharato vitakkāya cittaṁ namati, so: ‘ye te vitakkā hīnā gammā pothujjanikā anariyā anatthasaṁhitā na nibbidāya na virāgāya na nirodhāya na upasamāya na abhiññāya na sambodhāya na nibbānāya saṁvattanti, seyyathidaṁ—kāmavitakko byāpādavitakko vihiṁsāvitakko iti evarūpe vitakke na vitakkessāmī’ti.

If, Ānanda, while dwelling with this practice, the mind of a disciple inclines towards thought, he considers, These thoughts are inferior, worldly, of common people, ignoble, unbeneficial, leading neither to disenchantment, dispassion, cessation, tranquility, higher knowing, awakening, nor to Nibbāna; such as: thoughts of sensuality, ill will, and cruelty. Thus, he resolves, I shall not engage in such thought.

Itiha tattha sampajāno hoti.

Thus, he is mindful there.

Ye ca kho ime, ānanda, vitakkā ariyā niyyānikā niyyanti takkarassa sammādukkhakkhayāya, seyyathidaṁ—nekkhammavitakko abyāpādavitakko avihiṁsāvitakko iti: ‘evarūpe vitakke vitakkessāmī’ti.

And, Ānanda, those thoughts which are noble, leading to liberation, ending suffering for the one who engages in them, he considers, These thoughts are leading towards detachment, non-ill will, and non-cruelty.

Itiha tattha sampajāno hoti.

Thus, he is mindful there.

Pañca kho ime, ānanda, kāmaguṇā.

There are these five strands of sense satisfaction, Ānanda.

Katame pañca?

What five?

Cakkhuviññeyyā rūpā iṭṭhā kantā manāpā piyarūpā kāmūpasaṁhitā rajanīyā, sotaviññeyyā saddā … ghānaviññeyyā gandhā … jivhāviññeyyā rasā … kāyaviññeyyā phoṭṭhabbā iṭṭhā kantā manāpā piyarūpā kāmūpasaṁhitā rajanīyā— ime kho, ānanda, pañca kāmaguṇā.

Forms cognizable by the eye that are wished for, desired, agreeable, and conducive to weal and delight, sounds cognizable by the ear, odors cognizable by the nose, tastes cognizable by the tongue, and tactile sensations cognizable by the body that are wished for, desired, agreeable, and conducive to weal and delight:these are the five strands of sense satisfaction, Ānanda, upon which the disciple should repeatedly reflect his own mind frequently.

Yattha bhikkhunā abhikkhaṇaṁ sakaṁ cittaṁ paccavekkhitabbaṁ: ‘atthi nu kho me imesu pañcasu kāmaguṇesu aññatarasmiṁ vā aññatarasmiṁ vā āyatane uppajjati cetaso samudācāro’ti?

Is there, for me, within these five strands of sensual pleasures, some mental engagement arising in one or another of the sense bases?

Sace, ānanda, bhikkhu paccavekkhamāno evaṁ pajānāti: ‘atthi kho me imesu pañcasu kāmaguṇesu aññatarasmiṁ vā aññatarasmiṁ vā āyatane uppajjati cetaso samudācāro’ti, evaṁ santametaṁ, ānanda, bhikkhu evaṁ pajānāti: ‘yo kho imesu pañcasu kāmaguṇesu chandarāgo so me nappahīno’ti.

If, Ānanda, a disciple reflecting thus knows, Indeed, for me, within these five strands of sensual pleasures, there arises a mental engagement in one or another of the sense bases, then it truly indicates, Ānanda, that the disciple knows, The desire and attachment towards these five strands of sensual pleasures is not yet abandoned in me.

Itiha tattha sampajāno hoti.

Thus, in that regard, he is fully aware.

Sace panānanda, bhikkhu paccavekkhamāno evaṁ pajānāti: ‘natthi kho me imesu pañcasu kāmaguṇesu aññatarasmiṁ vā aññatarasmiṁ vā āyatane uppajjati cetaso samudācāro’ti, evaṁ santametaṁ, ānanda, bhikkhu evaṁ pajānāti: ‘yo kho imesu pañcasu kāmaguṇesu chandarāgo so me pahīno’ti.

However, if, Ānanda, a disciple reflecting thus knows, There is not, for me, within these five strands of sensual pleasures, any mental engagement arising in one or another of the sense bases, then it truly indicates, Ānanda, that the disciple knows, The desire and attachment towards these five strands of sensual pleasures has been abandoned in me.

Itiha tattha sampajāno hoti.

Thus, in that regard, he is fully aware.

Pañca kho ime, ānanda, upādānakkhandhā yattha bhikkhunā udayabbayānupassinā vihātabbaṁ: ‘iti rūpaṁ iti rūpassa samudayo iti rūpassa atthaṅgamo, iti vedanā … iti saññā … iti saṅkhārā … iti viññāṇaṁ iti viññāṇassa samudayo iti viññāṇassa atthaṅgamo’ti.

There are, Ānanda, five aggregates of clinging, upon which a disciple should dwell attending their arising and passing away: Such is form, such is the arising of form, such is the cessation of form; such is feeling; such is perception; such are mental formations; such is consciousness, such is the arising of consciousness, such is the cessation of consciousness.

Tassa imesu pañcasu upādānakkhandhesu udayabbayānupassino viharato yo pañcasu upādānakkhandhesu asmimāno so pahīyati.

While dwelling thus attending the arising and passing away within these five aggregates of clinging, the conceit of I am towards them is abandoned.

Evaṁ santametaṁ, ānanda, bhikkhu evaṁ pajānāti: ‘yo kho imesu pañcasu upādānakkhandhesu asmimāno so me pahīno’ti.

Indeed, it is truly said, Ānanda, that the disciple realizes, The conceit of I am relating to these five aggregates of clinging has been abandoned in me.

Itiha tattha sampajāno hoti.

Thus, in that regard, he is fully aware.

Ime kho te, ānanda, dhammā ekantakusalā kusalāyātikā ariyā lokuttarā anavakkantā pāpimatā.

These, Ānanda, are the teachings that are unquestionably wholesome, leading to welfare, noble, supramundane, and unapproachable by the defiled.

Taṁ kiṁ maññasi, ānanda, kaṁ atthavasaṁ sampassamāno arahati sāvako satthāraṁ anubandhituṁ api paṇujjamāno”ti?

What do you think, Ānanda, for what purpose should a disciple follow the Teacher even when reproached?

“Bhagavaṁmūlakā no, bhante, dhammā bhagavaṁnettikā bhagavaṁpaṭisaraṇā.

Our teachings, Venerable Sir, are rooted in the Blessed One, guided by the Blessed One, and they take refuge in the Blessed One.

Sādhu vata, bhante, bhagavantaṁyeva paṭibhātu etassa bhāsitassa attho.

It is indeed best, Venerable Sir, if the Blessed One himself elucidates the meaning of this teaching.

Bhagavato sutvā bhikkhū dhāressantī”ti.

Having heard it from the Blessed One, the disciples will remember it.

“Na kho, ānanda, arahati sāvako satthāraṁ anubandhituṁ, yadidaṁ suttaṁ geyyaṁ veyyākaraṇaṁ tassa hetu.

No, Ānanda, it is not fitting for a disciple to follow the Teacher merely because of Sutta, Geyya, or Veyyākaraṇa (prose discourses, verse, exposition).

Taṁ kissa hetu?

Why is that?

Dīgharattassa hi te, ānanda, dhammā sutā dhātā vacasā paricitā manasānupekkhitā diṭṭhiyā suppaṭividdhā.

Because for a long time, Ānanda, you have heard, kept, recited, thoroughly considered in your mind, and rightly penetrated the teachings with deep understanding.

Yā ca kho ayaṁ, ānanda, kathā abhisallekhikā cetovinīvaraṇasappāyā ekantanibbidāya virāgāya nirodhāya upasamāya abhiññāya sambodhāya nibbānāya saṁvattati, seyyathidaṁ—appicchakathā santuṭṭhikathā pavivekakathā asaṁsaggakathā vīriyārambhakathā sīlakathā samādhikathā paññākathā vimuttikathā vimuttiñāṇadassanakathā—evarūpiyā kho, ānanda, kathāya hetu arahati sāvako satthāraṁ anubandhituṁ api paṇujjamāno.

And what, Ānanda, is the discussion that conduces to the decline of defilements, to entering into seclusion, to dispassion, cessation, tranquility, higher knowing, enlightenment, and Nibbāna? It is the discussion of having few desires, contentment, seclusion, detachment, arousing energy, ethical conduct, concentration, wisdom, liberation, and the knowing and vision of liberation. Ānanda, it is for the sake of such a discussion that a disciple should follow the teacher, even if it requires effort.

Evaṁ sante kho, ānanda, ācariyūpaddavo hoti, evaṁ sante antevāsūpaddavo hoti, evaṁ sante brahmacārūpaddavo hoti.

If this is the case, Ānanda, disturbances arise from teachers, disturbances arise from pupils, and disturbances arise in the holy life.

Kathañcānanda, ācariyūpaddavo hoti?

And how, Ānanda, does a disturbance arise from a teacher?

Idhānanda, ekacco satthā vivittaṁ senāsanaṁ bhajati araññaṁ rukkhamūlaṁ pabbataṁ kandaraṁ giriguhaṁ susānaṁ vanapatthaṁ abbhokāsaṁ palālapuñjaṁ.

Here, Ānanda, some teacher resorts to a secluded dwelling, such as a forest, the root of a tree, a mountain, a gorge, a cave, a charnel ground, a jungle thicket, a space in the open air, or a heap of straw.

Tassa tathāvūpakaṭṭhassa viharato anvāvattanti brāhmaṇagahapatikā negamā ceva jānapadā ca.

As he lives in such a dwelling, brahmins and householders from villages and towns visit him.

So anvāvattantesu brāhmaṇagahapatikesu negamesu ceva jānapadesu ca mucchaṁ nikāmayati, gedhaṁ āpajjati, āvattati bāhullāya.

He becomes sparkling amidst them, develops attachment, and gets involved in a bustle.

Ayaṁ vuccatānanda, upaddavo ācariyo.

This, Ānanda, is called a disturbance from a teacher.

Ācariyūpaddavena avadhiṁsu naṁ pāpakā akusalā dhammā saṅkilesikā ponobbhavikā sadarā dukkhavipākā āyatiṁ jātijarāmaraṇiyā.

Due to the disturbance from the teacher, unwholesome, defiled states arise in him, leading to further becoming, connected with painful results, bound to future birth, aging, and death.

Evaṁ kho, ānanda, ācariyūpaddavo hoti.

Thus, Ānanda, is the disturbance from a teacher.

Kathañcānanda, antevāsūpaddavo hoti?

And how, Ānanda, does a disturbance arise from a pupil?

Tasseva kho panānanda, satthu sāvako tassa satthu vivekamanubrūhayamāno vivittaṁ senāsanaṁ bhajati araññaṁ rukkhamūlaṁ pabbataṁ kandaraṁ giriguhaṁ susānaṁ vanapatthaṁ abbhokāsaṁ palālapuñjaṁ.

The disciple of such a teacher, imitating the teacher’s seclusion, resorts to a secluded dwelling, such as a forest, the root of a tree, a mountain, a gorge, a cave, a charnel ground, a jungle thicket, a space in the open air, or a heap of straw.

Tassa tathāvūpakaṭṭhassa viharato anvāvattanti brāhmaṇagahapatikā negamā ceva jānapadā ca.

As he resides in such a dwelling, brahmins and householders from villages and towns visit him.

So anvāvattantesu brāhmaṇagahapatikesu negamesu ceva jānapadesu ca mucchaṁ nikāmayati, gedhaṁ āpajjati, āvattati bāhullāya.

He becomes sparkling amidst them, develops attachment, and becomes involved in a bustle.

Ayaṁ vuccatānanda, upaddavo antevāsī.

This, Ānanda, is called a disturbance from a pupil.

Antevāsūpaddavena avadhiṁsu naṁ pāpakā akusalā dhammā saṅkilesikā ponobbhavikā sadarā dukkhavipākā āyatiṁ jātijarāmaraṇiyā.

Due to the disturbance from the pupil, unwholesome, defiled states arise in him, leading to further becoming, connected with painful results, bound to future birth, aging, and death.

Evaṁ kho, ānanda, antevāsūpaddavo hoti.

Thus, Ānanda, is the disturbance from a pupil.

Kathañcānanda, brahmacārūpaddavo hoti?

And how, Ānanda, does a disturbance arise in the holy life?

Idhānanda, tathāgato loke uppajjati arahaṁ sammāsambuddho vijjācaraṇasampanno sugato lokavidū anuttaro purisadammasārathi satthā devamanussānaṁ buddho bhagavā.

Here, Ānanda, a Tathāgata arises in the world, an Arahant, Perfectly Enlightened, endowed with wisdom and conduct, sublime, knower of the worlds, incomparable leader of persons to be tamed, teacher of gods and humans, awakened, blessed.

So vivittaṁ senāsanaṁ bhajati araññaṁ rukkhamūlaṁ pabbataṁ kandaraṁ giriguhaṁ susānaṁ vanapatthaṁ abbhokāsaṁ palālapuñjaṁ.

He frequents secluded dwellings: a forest, the root of a tree, a mountain, a ravine, a cave in the mountains, a charnel ground, a wooded grove, the open air, or a heap of straw.

Tassa tathāvūpakaṭṭhassa viharato anvāvattanti brāhmaṇagahapatikā negamā ceva jānapadā ca.

While dwelling there in such solitude, Brahmins, householders, residents of villages, and country people approach him.

So anvāvattantesu brāhmaṇagahapatikesu negamesu ceva jānapadesu ca na mucchaṁ nikāmayati, na gedhaṁ āpajjati, na āvattati bāhullāya.

Among those who approach, he does not yearn, become greedy, or turn back to the abundance of worldly life.

Tasseva kho panānanda, satthu sāvako tassa satthu vivekamanubrūhayamāno vivittaṁ senāsanaṁ bhajati araññaṁ rukkhamūlaṁ pabbataṁ kandaraṁ giriguhaṁ susānaṁ vanapatthaṁ abbhokāsaṁ palālapuñjaṁ.

In this way, Ānanda, a disciple of the Teacher, striving for seclusion like the Teacher, frequents secluded dwellings: a forest, the root of a tree, a mountain, a ravine, a cave in the mountains, a charnel ground, a wooded grove, the open air, or a heap of straw.

Tassa tathāvūpakaṭṭhassa viharato anvāvattanti brāhmaṇagahapatikā negamā ceva jānapadā ca.

While dwelling there in such seclusion, Brahmins, householders, residents of villages, and country people approach him.

So anvāvattantesu brāhmaṇagahapatikesu negamesu ceva jānapadesu ca mucchaṁ nikāmayati, gedhaṁ āpajjati, āvattati bāhullāya.

Among those who approach, he yearns, becomes greedy, and turns back to the abundance of worldly life.

Ayaṁ vuccatānanda, upaddavo brahmacārī.

This, Ānanda, is called the calamity of a celibate life.

Brahmacārūpaddavena avadhiṁsu naṁ pāpakā akusalā dhammā saṅkilesikā ponobbhavikā sadarā dukkhavipākā āyatiṁ jātijarāmaraṇiyā.

By this calamity of the celibate life, unskillful, unwholesome states:corrupting, causing rebirth, bringing distressful results, leading to future birth, aging, and death:overwhelm him.

Evaṁ kho, ānanda, brahmacārūpaddavo hoti.

Thus, Ānanda, there is a calamity in the celibate life.

Tatrānanda, yo cevāyaṁ ācariyūpaddavo, yo ca antevāsūpaddavo ayaṁ tehi brahmacārūpaddavo dukkhavipākataro ceva kaṭukavipākataro ca, api ca vinipātāya saṁvattati.

Here, Ānanda, both the calamity of a teacher and the calamity of a pupil are more distressful and severe than the calamity of the celibate life, and they lead to downfall.

Tasmātiha maṁ, ānanda, mittavatāya samudācaratha, mā sapattavatāya.

Therefore, Ānanda, interact with me as with a friend, not as with an adversary.

Taṁ vo bhavissati dīgharattaṁ hitāya sukhāya.

This will lead to your long-term welfare and happiness.

Kathañcānanda, satthāraṁ sāvakā sapattavatāya samudācaranti, no mittavatāya?

And how, Ānanda, do disciples interact with the Teacher as with an adversary, not as with a friend?

Idhānanda, satthā sāvakānaṁ dhammaṁ deseti anukampako hitesī anukampaṁ upādāya: ‘idaṁ vo hitāya, idaṁ vo sukhāyā’ti.

Here, Ānanda, the Teacher teaches the Dhamma to the disciples out of compassion, seeking their welfare, with compassion: This is for your welfare, this is for your happiness.

Tassa sāvakā na sussūsanti, na sotaṁ odahanti, na aññā cittaṁ upaṭṭhapenti, vokkamma ca satthusāsanā vattanti.

But the disciples neither listen, nor lend their ears, nor know with their minds, and turning away from the Teacher's instruction, they live a worldly life.

Evaṁ kho, ānanda, satthāraṁ sāvakā sapattavatāya samudācaranti, no mittavatāya.

Thus, Ānanda, the disciples interact with the Teacher as with an adversary, not as with a friend.

Kathañcānanda, satthāraṁ sāvakā mittavatāya samudācaranti, no sapattavatāya?

And how, Ānanda, do disciples interact with the Teacher as with a friend, not as with an adversary?

Idhānanda, satthā sāvakānaṁ dhammaṁ deseti anukampako hitesī anukampaṁ upādāya: ‘idaṁ vo hitāya, idaṁ vo sukhāyā’ti.

Here, Ānanda, the Teacher teaches the Dhamma to the disciples out of compassion, seeking their welfare, with compassion: This is for your welfare, this is for your happiness.

Tassa sāvakā sussūsanti, sotaṁ odahanti, aññā cittaṁ upaṭṭhapenti, na ca vokkamma satthusāsanā vattanti.

And the disciples listen, lend their ears, know with their minds, and do not turn away from the Teacher's instruction.

Evaṁ kho, ānanda, satthāraṁ sāvakā mittavatāya samudācaranti, no sapattavatāya.

Thus, Ānanda, the disciples interact with the Teacher as with a friend, not as with an adversary.

Tasmātiha maṁ, ānanda, mittavatāya samudācaratha, mā sapattavatāya.

Therefore, Ānanda, conduct yourselves like friends, not like enemies.

Taṁ vo bhavissati dīgharattaṁ hitāya sukhāya.

It will be for your long-term welfare and happiness.

Na vo ahaṁ, ānanda, tathā parakkamissāmi yathā kumbhakāro āmake āmakamatte.

I, Ānanda, will not exert myself in the way a potter works with raw, soft clay.

Niggayha niggayhāhaṁ, ānanda, vakkhāmi; pavayha pavayha, ānanda, vakkhāmi.

I will speak by repeatedly reproving; I will speak by repeatedly encouraging.

Yo sāro so ṭhassatī”ti.

That which is essential will endure.

Idamavoca bhagavā.

Thus spoke the Blessed One.

Attamano āyasmā ānando bhagavato bhāsitaṁ abhinandīti.

Delighted, the Venerable Ānanda rejoiced in the words of the Blessed One.

Mahāsuññatasuttaṁ niṭṭhitaṁ dutiyaṁ.

Thus the second Great Emptiness Discourse is concluded.